Johnny Flynn: "Kutamba Einstein kwakaita kuti ndizive zvazvinoreva kuva shasha"

Mwaka wekutanga weGenius uri kufambisa paNational Geographic channel, iyo inotaura nezvehupenyu hwaAlbert Einstein - kubva pauduku hwake kusvika pakukwegura. Kubva pamapfuti ekutanga, mufananidzo wemunhu akanaka, ane musoro wegore unodonha: tinoona kuti mufizikisi wechikuru anoita sei bonde nemunyori wake pabhodhi-yakasvibiswa nechoko. Uye ipapo anomukoka kuti agare pamwe chete nemukadzi wake, sezvo "monogamy yapera nguva."

Kudzika gilding, kutyora stereotypes uye dzidziso ndeimwe yemabasa ayo vanyori vanozvigadzira ivo pachavo. Director Ron Howard aitsvaga vatambi venzvimbo inotungamira, achitungamirwa nehunyanzvi. “Kuridza munhu anoshamisa saEinstein, munhu akaoma kunzwisisa akadaro chete, ane mativi akawanda anogona kutamba,” anotsanangura kudaro. "Ini ndaida mumwe munhu, padanho rakadzama, aigona kutora iwo mweya wemahara ekugadzira."

Mudiki Einstein akaridzwa ne34-year-old muimbi uye mutambi Johnny Flynn. Izvi zvisati zvaitika, aingopenya mumabhaisikopo, akaridza munhandare uye akarekodha maalbum evanhu. Flynn ane chokwadi chokuti Einstein akanga asiri "dandelion yaMwari" sezvaaimboita. "Anotarisa semudetembi uye muzivi we bohemian kupfuura musayendisiti wearchair," anodaro.

Takataura naJohnny Flynn pamusoro pezvakaita kunyura munyika yehunyanzvi uye kuyedza kunzwisisa hunhu hwake kubva pakuona kwemunhu wemazuva ano.

Psychology: Ungatsanangura sei hunhu hwaEinstein?

Johnny Flynn: Humwe hunhu hwake hunoshamisa kusada kwake kuva chikamu cheboka ripi neripi, boka, nyika, pfungwa, kana seti yezvitendero uye rusaruro. Revo yesimba rake roupenyu rokutyaira kuramba dzidziso dziripo. Kwaari kwakanga kusina chinhu chiri nyore uye chakajeka, hapana chakafanorongwa. Akabvunza pfungwa dzese dzaaisangana nadzo. Iyi imhando yakanaka yekudzidza fizikisi, asi kubva pakuona kwehukama hwehukama yakagadzira akati wandei matambudziko.

Unorevei?

Chokutanga pane zvose, zvinoonekwa muukama hwake nevakadzi. Iri ndiro rimwe remadingindira makuru munhevedzano. Kune vakadzi vakati wandei vanozivikanwa avo Einstein aifarira, asi aive munhu ane mhepo. Uye mune dzimwe nzira - kunyange udyire uye utsinye.

Muhuduku hwake, akaramba achidanana. Rudo rwake rwokutanga rwaiva Maria Winteler, mwanasikana womudzidzisi waaigara naye muSwitzerland. Gare gare, Einstein paanopinda yunivhesiti, anosangana nomudzimai wake wokutanga, Mileva Marich, nyanzvi yefizikisi uye musikana mumwe chete muboka. Akaramba kufambira mberi kwaEinstein, asi pakupedzisira akabvuma kukwezva kwake.

Mireva haana kuchengeta vana chete, asiwo akabatsira Albert mubasa rake, aiva munyori wake. Sezvineiwo, haana kumboonga mupiro wake. Takadhirowa chiitiko chinoshamisa apo Mileva anoverenga rimwe remabhuku akatsikiswa emurume wake, maanotenda shamwari yake yepamoyo, kwete iye. Paiva nenguva yakadaro, uye tinogona kungofungidzira kuti akanga agumbuka sei.

Iwo akatevedzana anoedza kuratidza nzira yaEinstein yekufunga.

Akaita zvakawanda zvaakawana kuburikidza nekuedza pfungwa. Dzaive dzakapfava kwazvo, asi dzakabatsira kubata dingindira redambudziko. Zvechokwadi, mubasa rake resayenzi, akasangana nepfungwa dzakaoma kunzwisisa dzakadai sokumhanya kwechiedza.

Imwe yeongororo yainyanyozivikanwa yaEinstein yakauya mumusoro arimurift. Akafungidzira kuti zvaizova zvakaita sei kuva musimba regiravhiti razero uye kuti zvaizoguma nei. Kana, semuenzaniso, sei isingazosangana nemhepo inopikisa uye ichikwira mudenga, kana zvese zvinodonha nekumhanya kwakafanana mu zero gravity. Einstein akaenda mberi mukufungidzira kwake uye akafungidzira lifti inofamba ichikwira mudenga. Kuburikidza nemuyedzo uyu wepfungwa, akaona kuti simba rinokwevera zvinhu pasi nekumhanyisa zvine spidhi imwechete. Pfungwa idzi dzakazunguza dzidziso yenzvimbo nenguva.

Chii chakanyanya kukufadza paari, kunze kwemafungiro ake?

Pamwe kumukira kwake. Akapinda muyunivhesiti asina kana kupedza chikoro, achipesana nezvaidiwa nababa vake. Aigara achiziva zvaari uye zvaaikwanisa, uye aidada nazvo. Ndinotenda kuti Einstein akanga asiri musayendisiti chete, asi zvakaenzana muzivi uye nyanzvi. Akamira nokuda kwechiono chake chenyika uye akashinga zvakakwana kurega zvose zvaakadzidziswa. Aitenda kuti sainzi yakanga yakanamatira mudzidziso dzechinyakare uye akanganwa nezvekudikanwa kwekuita budiriro huru.

Nonconformity inowanzobatanidzwa nekufunga kwekugadzira. Unobvumirana nazvo here?

Budiriro inogara ichipikisa chimwe chinhu chakasimbiswa. Kuchikoro, mumakirasi emimhanzi, ndaifanira kudzidza mabhuku akawanda echinyakare, cramming theory. Kupikisa kwangu kwakaratidzwa pakuti ndakatanga kugadzira mimhanzi yangu. Kunyange kana mumwe munhu akaedza kudzvinyirira kufunga kwako kwakasununguka, pakupedzisira kunongotsamwisa uye kunopa kutsungirira.

Ini ndinofunga kuti mumwe nemumwe wedu ane imwe mhando yetarenda yakavanzwa mairi - iyi ndiyo mashandiro anoita nyika. Asi kuti zvizviratidze, kukurudzira kunodiwa. Kurudziro iyi haibvi padzidzo yechikoro. Vazhinji vasiki vakuru, nokuda kwechikonzero chimwe kana chimwe, vakanga vasingagoni kupedza yunivhesiti yakazara kana kosi yechikoro, asi izvi hazvina kuva chipingamupinyi kwavari.

Dzidzo yechokwadi ndiyo yauchatora iwe pachako, chauchatora kubva pane zvawakawana, kukanganisa, kukunda matambudziko. Ndakaenda kuchikoro chebhodhingi kwavaiedza kupa vana rusununguko rwavaigona kuti vataure zvavanofunga. Asi kwaiva kukurukurirana neshamwari kwakandidzidzisa kufunga zvine unyanzvi.

Mabviro akachinja maonero aEinstein here?

Akazvarwa mumhuri yechiJudha yakasununguka yakatamira kuGermany zvizvarwa zvakawanda zvakapfuura. MaJuda muEurope panguva iyoyo, kare Nazi Germany isati yasvika, vaive boka revanhu rakanyatsotsanangurwa, rakavharika. Einstein, achiziva nezve midzi yake, akanga asiri kuzozviisa pachake semuJudha, nokuti haana kuomerera kune dzidziso dzenhema. Akanga asingadi kupinda chero mukirasi. Asi gare gare, apo nzvimbo yavaJudha muEurope yakaderera zvikuru, akavatsigira uye akanga anavo.

Akagara ari pacifist here?

Paaiva jaya, Einstein akapikisa mutemo wemauto weGermany. Makotesheni ake anozivikanwa kusimbisa maonero ake epacifist. Nheyo huru yaEinstein kuramba pfungwa dzechisimba.

Unoona sei zvematongerwo enyika?

Zvisinei, ari kwese kwese. Hazvibviri kuvhara kubva pairi uye kuve wakasiyana zvachose. Zvinobata zvese, kusanganisira mazwi angu. Dzvanya mune zvese zvinotendwa uye kutenda kwetsika uye unogumburwa mune zvematongerwo enyika… Asi pane chinhu chakakosha pano: Ndinofarira zvematongerwo enyika, asi kwete vezvematongerwo enyika.

Basa iri wakariwana sei?

Iwe unogona kutaura kuti ini handina kuongorora saizvozvo, sezvo panguva iyoyo ndakanga ndichitora mafirimu mune imwe nhepfenyuro. Asi nezve akatevedzana "Genius" akaudza shamwari. Akandiita kurekodha vhidhiyo uye ndoiendesa kuti ionekwe. Ndozvandakaita. Ron Howard akandibata kuburikidza neSkype: Ini ndaive muGlasgow ipapo, uye aive kuUSA. Pakapera kukurukurirana, ndakabvunza kuti Einstein airevei kwaari pachake. Ron aive nepfungwa yakakwana yekuti nyaya yacho yaifanira kunge iri yei. Chokutanga, ndaifarira upenyu hwomunhu, kwete musayendisiti chete. Ndakaona kuti ndaitofanira kurasa pfungwa dzangu dzezvaaive.

Einstein irudzi rwechimurenga uye akararama munguva dzine njodzi zvakanyanya, ari pane epicenter yezviitiko. Miedzo yakawanda yakamuwira. Zvese izvi zvakaita kuti hunhu hunakidze kwandiri senyanzvi.

Zvakanga zvakaoma here kugadzirira basa racho?

Ndakaita rombo rakanaka panyaya iyi: Einstein angangove munhu ane mukurumbira wezana ramakore rechiXNUMX. Ndakanga ndine huwandu hunoshamisa hwekuverenga nekudzidza, kunyangwe mavhidhiyo. Mazhinji emifananidzo yake, kusanganisira yekutanga, yakachengetedzwa. Chikamu chebasa rangu kwaive kubvisa stereotypes uye pfungwa dzakadzokororwa, kutarisa pane chokwadi, kunzwisisa chakakurudzira Einstein muhuduku hwake.

Wakaedza kubudisa mativi omunhu chaiyeiye kana kuti, panzvimbo pezvo, kupa rudzi rwakati rwokurava kwako umene here?

Kubva pakutanga, Jeffrey neni takaona mushanduro yedu yeEinstein maficha evanhu vakawanda vanoshamisa, uye kunyanya Bob Dylan. Kunyange biography yavo ine chimwe chinhu chakafanana. Kuumbwa kweunhu hwaEinstein kwakaitika mumamiriro ebhohemian: iye neshamwari dzake vakapedza usiku hwose vachinwa, vachikurukura nevazivi vakakurumbira. Nyaya imwe chete naBob Dylan. Kune zvakawanda zvinonongedza kuvadetembi nevazivi munziyo dzake. Kufanana naEinstein, Dylan ane chiono chakakosha chezvakasikwa uye nzira yekuishandura mumutauro we "munhu". Sokutaura kwakaita Schopenhauer, “tarenda rinowana nharidzano iyo pasina munhu anogona kuita; genius - iyo isina munhu anogona kuona. Muono wakasiyana uyu ndiwo unovabatanidza.

Iwe unoona kufanana pakati pako naEinstein?

Ndinofarira kuti tine zuva rimwe chete rekuzvarwa. Zvinondipa pfungwa shoma yekuva munhu, sekunge handisi mutsvuku ane maziso ebhuruu akagezwa, akarongedzwa uye akabvumidzwa kuita saEinstein. Ndinogovera zvizere mirangariro yake nemifungo pamusoro pokubatanidzwa kana kuti kusatora rutivi muboka ripi neripi rinoomerera kana kuti rudzi.

Kufanana naye, ndaifanira kufamba nenyika ndichiri mwana mudiki. Aigara munyika dzakasiyana-siyana uye haana kumboedza kuzvisiyanisa senhengo yerudzi chero rupi zvarwo. Ini ndinonzwisisa uye ndinogovera zvizere maitiro ake kumakakatanwa mune chero yekuratidzira kwavo. Pane yakawedzera kunaka uye yakavhenekerwa nzira yekugadzirisa kusawirirana - munogona kugara pasi muchitaurirana.

Uye Einstein, sewe, aive nechipo chemimhanzi.

Hongu, ndinoridzawo violin. Hunyanzvi uhu hwakauya hunobatsira panguva yekutorwa kwemafirimu. Ndakadzidza zvidimbu izvo Einstein akati ainyanya kufarira. Nenzira, zvido zvedu zvinobvumirana. Ndakakwanisa kuvandudza kuridza violin yangu, uye munhevedzano ndinoridza zvese ini. Ndakaverenga kuti, ndichishanda padzidziso yake yehukama, Einstein pane imwe nguva aigona kumira uye kutamba kwemaawa akati wandei. Izvi zvakamubatsira mubasa rake. Ndakambonyorawo rwiyo pamusoro paEinstein.

Ndiudze zvimwe.

Izvi zvakangofanana. Agara ari gamba kwandiri, rudzi rwomuenzaniso, asi handina kumbofunga kuti ndaizombomutamba mubhaisikopo. Ndakanyora rwiyo rwacho sejee. Mariri, ndinoedza kutsanangura dzidziso yehukama kumwanakomana wangu nenzira yerullaby. Ipapo kwaingova kurumbidza kumufarira kwangu. Zvinoshamisa kuti ikozvino ndave kuzvionera zvese izvi ini.

Chii chaunofarira kubva mufirimu?

Ndinoyeuka nguva yaakatsungirira kufirwa nababa vake ndokuramba achienderera mberi. Takanga tichitora chiitiko naRobert Lindsey achitamba baba vaAlbert. Yakanga iri nguva inobaya mwoyo, uye somutambi, yaifadza uye yakandiomera. Ndakafarira chaizvo zvaiitika pamariro musinagogi muPrague. Takaita anenge 100 kutora uye yaive nesimba kwazvo.

Kwakanga kuchifadzawo kubudisazve kuedza kwokufunga, zviya zvinochinja munhau apo Einstein akaziva kuti aigona kuchinja chisiko chapose pose. Takadhirowa chiitiko patakadzokorora nhevedzano yehurukuro ina muna 1914 apo Einstein aimhanya mhanya kunyora maequations ehukama hwakazara. Achizvidenha, akapa hurukuro ina kuvateereri vakazara, uye zvakapotsa zvamupengesa ndokurasikirwa noutano hwake. Apo iyo yakawedzerwa muvateereri yakandirova maoko munzvimbo yandinonyora equation yekupedzisira, ndaigona kufungidzira kuti zvingave sei, uye zvainakidza!

Dai waigona kubvunza Einstein mubvunzo, waizomubvunza chii?

Zvinoita sekuti hapana mibvunzo yasara yaasingaedze kupindura. Imwe yenyaya dzinonakidza kwazvo yakaitika mushure mekunge atamira kuUSA. Einstein ainetsekana nekutyorwa kwekodzero dzevanhu uye kubatwa zvisina kunaka kwevanhu vemuAfrica uye akanyora rondedzero yaakavaisa muboka, uye iye pachake, se "vekunze." Akanyora kuti, "Ini handikwanise kuzvidaidza kuti ndiri muAmerica kana vanhu ava vari kubatwa zvakanyanya."

Unoda here kuramba uri munhoroondo, segamba rako?

Handifungi nezvemukurumbira. Kana vanhu vakafarira mutambo wangu kana mimhanzi, izvo zvakanaka.

Ndeipi nyanzvi yaungade kutamba inotevera?

Nyika yandinoziva uye nyika yandinobva inyika yehunyanzvi. Mudzimai wangu muimbi uye ndanga ndichigadzira mimhanzi kubva pandakapedza chikoro. Kune mazana evaimbi vandinoda kuridza. Pane zvakawanda zvekutaura pamusoro pekuti ndiani angakandwa mumwaka unotevera weGenius uye ndinofunga zvingave zvakanaka dai aive mukadzi. Asi ndinotya kuti handicharitamba zvakare.

Kunze kwekunge mumwe wevafambidzani vake.

Ndinofunga Marie Curie, anoonekwa munyaya yedu nezveEinstein, mumiriri akakodzera. Leonardo Da Vinci angave anonakidza kana vakasarudza kutora mumwe wevarume vacho. Uye Michelangelo zvakare.