Akava nyeredzi nekukurumidza, asi aisagara aine rombo rakanaka. Anobva kumhuri inenge iri pasi pehurombo uye anobata basa rake "semudzidzi": anopedza mwedzi yakawanda achigadzirira mabasa mumamyuziyamu nemaraibhurari. Uye anosarudza kuenda kumhemberero yeOscar naambuya vake. Kusangana naJessica Chastain, uyo anoziva kuti nzira ipfupi yakakwira yakatwasuka.
Vanhu vane bvudzi dzvuku vanoita sevasina basa kwandiri. A little frivolous. Uye kazhinji kufara. Chekupedzisira chete chinoshanda kuna Jessica Chastain: ari - chaizvo, chaizvo - muchokwadi, anongofadza ziso. Uye kana achiseka, zvese mukuseka kwake - maziso, mapendekete, maoko madiki machena, uye gumbo rakachinjika pamusoro pegumbo rake, uye bhutsu dzinosekesa dzeballet dzine kutevedzera muromo wemhuka, uye shati yakasvibira yakasvibira, uye bhurukwa jena rine ruched cuffs. , what something girly, kindergarten. Zviri pachena kuti munhu akatsiga. Asi hapana frivolity mairi zvachose.
Nenzira, akashata - wazviona here? Dhadha mhino, ganda rakachenuruka, chena eyelashes. Asi iwe hauna kuzviona.
Iniwo handina kuzviona. Iye mutambi akadaro zvekuti chero munhu anogona kuva. Anonzwisa tsitsi, anonyengerera, anopamba, anobata, tsotsi, akabatwa, goth akapfeka dehwe dema uye murandakadzi mune crinoline. Takamuona sedombo muna Andres Muschietti's Amai, semugari wemo muGuillermo del Toro's Crimson Peak, seCIA uye Mossad mumiririri muKatherine Bigelow's Target One uye John Madden's Payback, semukadzi anoseka akakundikana muThe Help. Tate Taylor, amai vari kuchema muNed Benson's Kunyangarika kwaEleanor Rigby, mai madonna, mufananidzo wekusazvipira muTerrence Malick's Muti weHupenyu, uye pakupedzisira Salome nekunyengera kwake uye hunyengeri.
Hazvibviri kusazviziva, hazvibviri kusazviparadzanisa kubva kumashure. Uye Chastain, akagara pamberi pangu, haana chekuita nesimba rose iri - chipo chake chekuita, kugona kudzora manzwiro edu, kugona kuronga nzvimbo yehwindo yakatenderedza uye panguva imwe chete ichingova chikamu chese. Uye hapana frivolity. Neimwe nzira, anotora mutoro wakazara kwaari - anotanga hurukuro yedu parekodhi.
Jessica Chastain: Usandibvunza kuti ndakava nemukurumbira sei nehusiku humwe chete. Uye manzwiro andaiita pandakafamba Cannes red carpet naBrad Pitt naSean Penn. Mushure memakore akawanda ekukundikana uye nemiedzo isingabudiriri. Usabvunza.
Psychology: Sei?
JC: Nokuti ... Sei, munhu wose anondibvunza mubvunzo uyu - pamusoro pegore rangu ra2011, apo mafirimu matanhatu panguva imwe chete, akapfurwa panguva dzakasiyana, akabuda mukati memwedzi mitanhatu. Uye vakatanga kundiziva. Munoona, ndakanga ndatova nemakore makumi matatu nemana, ino ndiyo nguva apo vamwe, vakabudirira zvikuru vanoita zvemitambo vanofunga nekutya: chii chinotevera? Handisisiri musikana, hazviite kuti ndirarame segamba rerudo… Uye vachandida here iye zvino … mupfungwa dzese (Anoseka) Kusanganisira - uye kana vachizopfura. Ndakanga ndatova nemakore 34. Uye ndakanzwisisa kuti chii chainyanya kukosha, uye chii chakanga chiri, chishongo.
“Ndinotenda kuti kunzwa kwokuonga ndiko kunzwa kukuru kunofanira kuitwa nomunhu”
Pandakanga ndava nemakore 25, hanzvadzi yangu Juliet akazviuraya. Rimwe gore mudiki kwandiri. Takaona zvishoma zvisati zvaitika - akarwa naamai vake, akasarudza kugara nababa vedu vokubereka - takangoona kuchikoro chesekondari kuti vaiva baba vedu, mugwaro rekuzvarwa muchikamu "baba" tine dash. Vabereki vake vakanga vachiri kuyaruka pavakasangana, ipapo amai vake vakasiya baba vake ... Juliet akatambura nekuora mwoyo. Makore akawanda. Uye baba vake havana kugona kumubatsira. Akazvipfura nepfuti yake mumba make… Aiva nemakore makumi maviri nemana… Takakura tose, uye handina kukwanisa kumubatsirawo.
Zvese zvakandipindukira: pfungwa dzangu - nezvekubudirira, kukundikana, mari, basa, budiriro, hukama, zvipfeko, maOscars, kuti mumwe munhu anditore benzi ... Pamusoro pezvese. Uye ndakatanga kuona upenyu hwangu sebudiriro yakakwana. Havana kuzvitora mumufananidzo - marara api, asi ini ndinoshanda uye ndinowana mari. Aiva nemumwe here? Ndichapona neimwe nzira, ndiri mupenyu.
Asi uku ndiko kudzikisira kwaunoita here?
JC: Uye ndingati kuzvininipisa. Handina kukwanisa kuziva rufu rwaiswedera, gomba rakadzikadzika pamberi pemunhu ari pedyo - nei ndichizvirumbidza zvino? Sei uchinyepedzera kuti saizi yemubhadharo inosarudza chimwe chinhu? Tinofanira kuedza kuona zvakawanda! Baba vacho vakashaya hanzvadzi yavo ichangozviuraya. Ndakanga ndisiri pamariro. Kwete nekuti ndaisavaziva, asi nekuti ... Munoziva, pane munhu mumwe chete anoshamisa muhupenyu hwangu. Ava ndibaba vangu vokurera, Michael. Anongori mudzimi wemoto… Kwete, kwete chete.
Ndiye muponesi uye muponesi nokudana. Uye apo akaoneka mumba medu, kwenguva yokutanga ndakanzwa kuti kudzikama, chengeteko chii. Ndakanga ndiri mwana, makore masere. Izvi zvisati zvaitika, handina kumbonzwa ndine chivimbo. Naiye muupenyu hwangu pakanga pane pfungwa yakakwana yekuchengeteka. Hungu, dzimwe nguva taidzingwa nokuda kwerendi yanonoka, hongu, kazhinji taiva tisina mari—pamusoro pazvo, taiva nevana vashanu. Uye zvakatoitika kuti ndakasvika kumba ndichibva kuchikoro, uye mumwe munhu akavhara gonhi remba yedu, akanditarisa netsitsi akandibvunza kana ndaida kutora zvimwe zvezvinhu zvangu, zvakanaka, pamwe rudzi rwebere...
Uye zvakadaro - ndaigara ndichiziva kuti Michael aizotidzivirira, uye naizvozvo zvinhu zvose zvaizogadziriswa. Uye kurufu kwababa handina kuenda nekuti ndaitya kuti ndaizogumbura baba vangu ava. Uye zvakare, pamberi pekutanga kweMuti weHupenyu, hazvina kukosha kuti ndaiva muCannes - kunyangwe ndiri anotyisa bhaisikopo fan, uye kusvika kuCannes zvairevawo kuti ndione zvese, zvese zvinoratidzwa ipapo! - kwete, zvaive zvakakosha kuti ndakavhiringidzika, ndisingazivi zvokuita pamasitepisi ePalais des Festivals, uye Brad naSean vakatora maoko angu. Yakabatsira mutsva kujaira.
Asi zvawakawana zvinokatyamadza: kubva paudiki hwakaoma kusvika kumatanho eCannes uye kumaOscars. Pane chimwe chinhu chokudada nacho.
JC: Izvi handizvo zvandawana chete. Vakandibatsira nguva dzose! Kazhinji, ndinotarisa zvakapfuura seketani isingagumi yekubatsira kweumwe munhu. Kuchikoro ndaisadiwa. Ndakanga ndatsvuka, ndakasviba. Ndakagera bvudzi rangu ndichipokana nefashoni yekuchikoro inenge inemhanza, vasikana vezvidhori vakanditi ndakashata. Izvi zviri mumagiredhi epasi. Asi ndakanga ndava nemakore manomwe apo ambuya vangu vakandiendesa kunotamba. Yaive Joseph uye Yake Inoshamisa Technicolor Dreamcoat, mumhanzi naAndrew Lloyd Webber. Uye ndizvozvo, ndakanyangarika, ndakatapukirwa neiyo theatre. Kuma9 ndakaenda kuimba yemitambo. Uye ndakawana vanhu vangu. Imba yemitambo yakandibatsira kuti ndive ini, uye vezera rangu vakanga vakasiyana ikoko, uye vadzidzisi. Iye zvino ndava kuziva kune vose vana vane matambudziko, uye kumukoma wangu nehanzvadzi - ivo vachangopedza chikoro - ndinoti: chikoro inzvimbo isina kurongeka, nharaunda isina kurongeka. Tsvaga yako.
“Mukutaurirana hakuna matambudziko, pane kutaurirana nevanhu vasina kururama. Uye hapana nharaunda ine dambudziko, hapana chete kwete yako «
Hapana matambudziko mukukurukurirana, pane kutaurirana nevanhu vasina kururama. Uye hapana nharaunda ine dambudziko, kwete yako chete. Zvadaro, ndapedza chikoro, ambuya vangu vakandikurudzira kuti hapana chekufunga nezvekuwana mari, unofanira kuedza kuva mutambikadzi. Ndine chikwereti chese maOscar mazita nemakapeti matsvuku kuna mbuya vangu! Ndini wekutanga mumhuri yedu huru kuenda kukoreji! Ambuya vakandisimbisa kuti ndaigona. Uye akaenda neni kuNew York, kune yakakurumbira Juilliard, uko makwikwi aive nevanhu zana pachigaro.
Uye zvakare, handaizoona Juilliard kana Robin Williams, uyo akambopedza kudzidza kubva mairi pachake, akanga asina kutanga bhazidzo yevadzidzi vane mari shoma. Vaindibatsira nguva dzose. Saka ndava kuti ndine pfungwa yechitanhatu. Uku kunzwa kwekutenda. Chokwadi, ndinotenda kuti uku ndiko kunzwa kukuru kunofanirwa kuve nemunhu - pamberi pehushamwari, rudo uye rudo. Williams paakazviuraya, ndakaramba ndichifunga kuti handina kumbosangana naye sei, handina kumutenda ini…
Chokwadi, ndakanga ndisingadi kumanikidzira. Asi ndakawana nzira yokumutenda nayo. Iwo mabhezari akafanana evadzidzi. Ndinogara ndichipa mari kuhomwe. Uye pashure pokunge Williams afa, ndakawana sangano rakazvipira kudzivirira kuzviuraya. Ane zita guru - Kunyora Rudo Pamaoko Ake («Nyora» rudo «pamaoko ake.» - Approx. ed.). Avo vanoshanda ikoko vari kuedza kudzorera rudo kuvanhu … ndinovatsigira. Ndinokutendai nenzira dzakasiyana.
Asi iwe haudi kutaura kuti kubudirira hakuna basa kwauri!
JC: Hungu, zvamazvirokwazvo vakaita! Ini hangu handidi kuita red carpet character. Ndaigara ndichida kuonekwa semutambi - kuburikidza nevatambi, uye kwete kuburikidza neandinofambidzana naye uye kuti ndiri, munoona, vegan. Iwe unoona, muHollywood, nzvimbo yepamusoro-soro yebasa remutambi iboka re "catwoman", gamba remufirimu webhuku rekomiki kana "Bond girl". Ini handipokane nevasikana veBond, asi handitarisiri mazano akadai. Ini handisi Bond girl, ndiri Bond! Ini ndiri ndega, ndiri gamba remufirimu wangu.
Mushure meJuilliard, ndakasaina kondirakiti nekambani yakagadzira nhevedzano, uye ndakaisa nyeredzi muzvikamu mumashoo avo ese. Ndaisatarisira madhiri eumbozha. Ini ndaitya - uku kutya kwehudiki, hongu - kuti ndaisazokwanisa kubhadhara rendi. Ndakawana zviuru zvitanhatu pamwedzi, mushure mekubviswa kwese kwaive kune matatu, imba muSanta Monica inodhura 1600, asi ini nguva dzose ndaiirenda nepakati nemumwe munhu, saka yakazoita 800. Uye ndaive nemahamvuropu maviri - "Yeimba" uye “ Zvekudya».
Pamubhadharo wega wega, ndaiisa parutivi mari ipapo, dzaive dzisingaite. Kusvikira munguva pfupi yapfuura, ndakatyaira Prius, yandakatenga ipapo, muna 2007. Ndinogona kurarama uye kuita zvine musoro. Uye ndinogonawo kuonga zvandinazvo zvino. Iwe unoziva, ndakatenga imba muManhattan - mutengo, hongu, wakanaka, iyi iManhattan, asi imba ine mwero. Uye ini ndaida kuve neiyo imba ine mwero - chiyero chemunhu. Chikero chakaenzana neni. Kwete 200-mamita mansions.
Unotaura semunhu anozvifarira. Iwe unozviti iwe "wakanaka" here?
JC: Hongu, ndakafambira mberi munzira. Ndainge ndave hysteric, kubhowekana! Pane imwe nzvimbo mandiri pakanga pane chivimbo chokuti ndaigona uye ndinofanira kuva zvakanakisisa. Uye saka inofanira kutora zvakanyanya. Dai pasina shamwari dzangu… Ndipo pandaiva muCannes, pandakanga ndiripo kekutanga ne“Muti Weupenyu”, ndainetsekana zvikuru. Zvakanaka, handina kuziva kuti ndaizofamba sei pakapeti tsvuku iyi… Kubva muhotera takatyaira kuenda kuPalais des Festivals mumota, zvishoma nezvishoma, zvishoma, itsika ipapo.
Ini ndiina Jess Wexler, shamwari yangu yepamwoyo uye wandaidzidza naye. Ndakaramba ndichigomera kuti kutya, kutyisa, kutya, ndaitsika pamasitepisi pamupendero wangu, pedyo naBrad ndaizoratidzika sebenzi - nekuseka kwangu 162 cm kureba - uye kuti ndakanga ndava kuda kurutsa. Kusvikira azoti, “Makahwa, enda hako! Ingovhura musuwo - zvirinani vezvenhau vachange vaine chimwe chinhu chekunyora nezvazvo! Zvakaita kuti ndipengenuke. Unoonaka, paunochengeta ukama nevanhu vakakuona uri mumamiriro ezvinhu akaipisisa, pane tariro yokudzidza chokwadi pamusoro pako. Ndosaka ndichivachengeta, vangu.
Runyerekupe rwunoti haudanane nevamwe vatambi. Ichi ichokwadi here?
JC: Runyerekupe - asi chokwadi! Hongu, handisi kufambidzana nevatambi. Nekuti hukama kwandiri huzere pachena, kuperera kwekupedzisira. Uye nemutambi ... Pane mukana wekuvhiringika - ko kana akatamba newewo?
Pane ngozi ipi neipi kwauri here?
JC: Uye handimbotambe zvachose. Kunyange mumafirimu. Ndaitarisira kuti zvaionekwa.