Kubva kuna nymphet anoyevedza kubva kuna "Leon" akaparadzaniswa nemabasa mazhinji, kutanga kwebasa rake rekutungamira, dhipuroma mu psychology, Oscar, humai. Asi zvakare ine zvakawanda zvakafanana neane makore gumi nemaviri. Nekutendeseka sekwemwana, anotaura kuti nyika yake yachinja sei mumakore akapedza isu tisati tazviona.
Chokwadi, haungambomupa makumi matatu neshanu. Hongu, iye akanaka kwazvo, uye mimba haikanganisi maitiro ake akacheneswa. Uye, chokwadi, ndiye anooneka ekubudirira - heino Oscar, uye Dior advertising, uye ane mukurumbira choreographer-murume, uye anodiwa ane makore mashanu mwanakomana, uye dhairekitori debut A Tale of Love and Darkness, yakabvumidzwa muCannes…
Asi kubva pakutaura zvese Panguva imwecheteyo, mumvuri wekushatirwa usiri hunhu hwake unomhanya nechiso chaNatalie Portman. Nokuti "tarisa mudiki pane makore ako" irumbidzo yezera, munhu wese ane kodzero yekutarisa zera rake, uye hapana munhu anofanira kuedza kuva mudiki; runako kungohwina rotari yemajini, hapana kufanira kwairi, uye haufaniri kutonga mumwe nechitarisiko chake; Harvard - "Ehe, unoziva kunyadziswa kwakadii kwandakasangana nako ipapo nekuda kwehupenzi hwangu, yakawanda sei yandaifanira kukunda mandiri?", Uye murume nemwanakomana ... "Urwu rudo. Uye rudo hakusi kubudirira kana kuti mubayiro.”
Zvakanaka, kunze kweOscar. anogona kuzvikudza. Asi mushure mezvose, kuzvikudza chete, kwete kuzvirumbidza ...
Tinogara pavheranda rehotera yake pamusoro peVenetian Lagoon - kure nechitsuwa cheLido, uko mutambo wemufirimu uri kuzara, muchirongwa chine mafirimu maviri nekutora kwake. Angori pano kwemazuva akati kuti, ari kutarisira mwana wake wechipiri, uye zvino anoda kupedza nguva yakawanda sezvinobvira nemwanakomana wake mukoma kana hanzvadzi yake isati yasvika. Basa parizvino radzokera kumashure kwaPortman, uye ane huzivi - pamwe kekutanga munhoroondo yake, nguva yasvika yekuti atarise hupenyu hwake ari kunze, kunze kwekupopota uye kuita zvirongwa. Pano zvinova pachena kuti hazvisi pasina kuti Portman akagamuchira dhipuroma mune zvepfungwa - anogadzirisa nyore nyore ruzivo rwake rwemunhu muhutano hwemagariro evanhu.
Natalie Portman: Zvinosetsa kuti ndiri kubatwa sei sechisikwa chisina kusimba. Uye ndine pamuviri chete, kwete kurwara. Ndine manzwiro ekuti pamuviri munyika yedu yakarasikirwa nehupenyu hwayo, yave imwe mhando yechiitiko chinokosha chinoda kurapwa kwakakosha - zvinhu zvose zvakatarisana nekuchengetedzwa kweiyo iripo kare kuti kuvandudzwa kunoratidzika sechinhu chinoshamisa kunze.
Kazhinji, ndinoona shanduko dzakawanda. Kare, makore gumi apfuura, nyeredzi dzaitya paparazzi, nokuti dzaida kuchengetedza hupenyu hwavo hwepachivande, iye zvino vanonyara nekucherechedza kwavo, nokuti vanoda kuva "vanhuwo zvavo" mumaziso evanhu, nokuti hukuru muhuchokwadi hwedu hwakajeka hwava tsika dzakaipa. Zvirokwazvo, nyeredzi kazhinji kazhinji hadzina kufanirwa kutariswa neruzhinji munzira ipi neipi…
Ini ndaimbove gwai dema sevegan, ikozvino ichi chingori chikamu chimwe chekufamba kwehunhu hwemabatirwo echisikigo, chimwe chezvakawanda. Paimbove nechimiro chakasimba chekutaridzika, kuonda kwakaumbwa, uye zvino, tenda Mwari, kune mamodheru muhukuru hweXL, uye stylist wangu anoti: mucheche, makirogiramu mashanu haangakukuvadza ...
Psychology: Uye unofarira sei iyi nyika itsva?
E.G: Purofesa wangu wepayunivhesiti wandaifarira akataurawo kuti yekutanga wave tekinoroji yekuvandudza tekinoroji ichateverwa neimwe, yakadzika. Modernization of consciousness. Vanhu vanozoda kuvhurika kwakawanda kubva kune vezvematongerwo enyika, kubva kunyeredzi - kupera kwemafaro evatengesi, kubva kuhurumende - kuziva kwezvakatipoteredza. Ini ndinoidaidza kuti anti-elitism - kumukira kwevanhu vazhinji vachipokana nekuraswa zvine hutongi, kunyangwe padanho rekuravira, canons, izvo zvinonzi zvinogamuchirwa.
Ndakambobvunza Cate Blanchett kuti anozvifambisa sei zvese, ane vana vana. Uye iye neuzivi akati: "Dhanza uye dzidza kutamba"
Kana, sokutaura kunoita shamwari yangu yemutori wenhau, apo vafambi vanoombera mutyairi wendege maoko pashure pokukwira ndege: “Asi hapana anondiombera maoko apo ndinotumira chinyorwa chine mashoko gumi.” Mumamiriro ezvinhu matsva, hunyanzvi huri kuve hwakajairika, zvino zvinotenderwa kudada chete nemabasa akasarudzika, kuratidzwa kwehunenge hugamba. Uye ini, nenzira, munyika ino itsva yakarega kuva vegan yakachena, ini zvino ndine zvimwe zvinokosha, zvinoratidzika kwandiri, zvakakwirira: Ndinofanira kuva nehutano uye simba, ini ndiri amai. Ichi ndicho chinhu chikuru.
Mainakirwa nekuva amai here?
E.G: Kutaura chokwadi, zvinhu zvose hazvina kujeka. Handifungi kuti "akada" ndiro izwi chairo pano. Aleph asati aberekwa, ndainetsekana zvikuru - ndaisakwanisa kufungidzira kuti ndaizobatanidza sei basa nemwana wandaida kuvapo nguva dzose, nguva dzose ... Uye neimwe nzira ndakabvunza Cate Blanchett - ishamwari yangu yekare, yandinoda. wake zvikuru - kubudirira kwaanoita, ane vana vana. Uye iye neuzivi akati: "Dhanza uye iwe uchadzidza kutamba." Uye ndakarega kunetseka.
Uye Aleph paakazvarwa, hongu, zvese zvakarongwa zvega - akave chinhu chekutanga, ndakatombosiya zano remuchengeti wemaawa XNUMX - hapana anofanirwa kumira pakati pangu naye ... Humai kwandiri hwakasiyana. kusanganiswa kwekunyanyisa - chikafu chevana uye manapukeni nekuzvinyima kwakakwana, kunetseka, kunyange kutyisa nekunakidzwa. Iwe unova munjodzi uye unonzwa zvakanyanya - nekuti ikozvino wave nemunhu wekudzivirira. Uye yakasimba, yakatsunga - nekuti ikozvino une munhu wekudzivirira.
MuParis, kana iwe ukamhanya nemwana wako panzvimbo yekutamba, vanotarisa kubvunza kwauri - hazvigamuchirwe
Zvinosekesa asi iyezvino ndikatarisa munhu ndofunga kuti munhu ndimai vake zvinovarwadza kana mwana wavo akabatwa nehasha. Uye ndinopfava kunyange mumamiriro ezvinhu akaoma zvikuru. Asi maonero ezvinhu akati kanganisa. Mushure memakore maviri muFrance - murume wangu aive nekondirakiti ikoko yekutungamira Opera de Paris ballet - takadzokera kuLos Angeles. Uye iwe unoziva, mukuenzanisa neParis ... Mumwe munhu anonyemwerera mwana wangu mukofi, uye ini ndinofara - munhu anoshamisa sei, ane hushamwari, akavhurika!
Kana kuti zvimwe hapana chakadaro. Zvinongodaro muAmerica zvakajairika kunyemwerera mucheche, kugadzira mamiriro ekudziya uye kugamuchirwa kwaari. MuParis, kana ukamhanya-mhanya munhandare nemwana wako, vanokutarisa vachikunetsa - hazvigamuchirwi ... Uye muLos Angeles, munhu wese anoedza kusapinda munzvimbo yako, hapana anotsvaga kukudzidzisa chimiro chake chakanaka. Ndakanzwa mutsauko uyu - kubva kuParis kuenda kuLos Angeles - chaizvo nekuti ndine mwanakomana.
Zvaiita sekuti wanga wakarangwa uye kazhinji wakazviwana uri munzvimbo itsva yako zvekuti unofanirwa kubvuma zviri nyore chero tsika ... uve mutambi anozivikanwa, wakapedzisira waita basa remudzidzi, uye kunyangwe mudhipatimendi re psychology, kure neindasitiri yemafirimu ...
E.G: Asi miitiro mitsva uye utsinye zvakasiyana kubva kune mumwe nemumwe, handizvo here?
Coarseness?
E.G: Ehe, hongu, muParis, kana ukasateera hunhu hwenzvimbo, unogona kukuitira hasha. Pane… imwe mhando yekufungirwa nehunhu. Kunyangwe rwendo rwuri nyore kuenda kuchitoro runogona kunetsa nekuda kwe "protocol" yaunofanirwa kutevera. Imwe yeshamwari dzangu dzeParisian dzakaramba dzichindidzidzisa "kutenga tsika": uri kutsvaga, semuenzaniso, chinhu chehukuru hwako. Asi chekutanga, iwe unofanirwa kuudza mutengesi kuti: "Bonjour!" Ipapo unofanira kumirira 2 seconds wobvunza mubvunzo wako.
Aimbova wangu akandidaidza kuti "Moscow", akati: dzimwe nguva unotarisa kunze nepahwindo zvinosiririsa ... Zvinongori "Hanzvadzi nhatu" - "KuMoscow! KuMoscow!»
Kana iwe wakapinda, wakatarisa kune zvirembera ndokubvunza kuti: "Iwe une 36?", Iwe waive usina hunhu, uye iwe unogona kuve wakashata mukudzoka. Havafungi nezvekuita kuti munhu ari pedyo newe asununguke. Vanofunga nezve protocol. Zvichida nenzira iyi vari kuedza kuchengetedza tsika dzavo. Asi zvakandiomera. Unoonaka, kuFrance ndakanzwa kuneta chaizvo nemitemo. Ndakagara ndichirairwa zvakanyanya. Iye zvino ndava kutungamirirwa zvakanyanya nekunzwa. Ndinoda kuti vamwe vari pedyo neni vasununguke, kuitira kuti pasava nomunhu anonzwa achinetseka, uye ndinozvibata zvakakodzera.
Dzidzo yepfungwa inokanganisa maitiro ako neimwe nzira here? Unofunga kuti unonzwisisa vanhu kupfuura vamwe here?
E.G: Oo, hongu, iwe unobata nyanzvi dzepfungwa segurus. Asi pasina. Zvinoratidzika kwandiri kuti ini ndinongova nyanzvi yepfungwa chaiyo - munhu wega wega kwandiri harisi bhuku rakatonyorwa uye rakadhindwa mune imwe edition, yaunongoda kuvhura uye kuverenga, asi chisikwa chakasiyana, chakavanzika chinoda kunzwisiswa. .
Iwe uri nyanzvi mune zvepfungwa dzevana, izvi zvinobatsira here muhukama nemwanakomana wako?
E.G: Tese takaenzana kana tikaziva vana vedu. Uye munhu wese haabatsiri pamberi pechishamiso - kusangana nemunhu uyu, mwana wako. Munoziva, ndine chokwadi chekuti ndichave ambuya vakanaka. Ndipo apo — neruzivo rwekuva amai neruzivo rwe psychology — ndichajekesa. Zvino pakati pedu hapasisina chinhambwe chakakwana; ndiri weArefi.
Asi mutungamiriri anofanira kunge ari nyanzvi yepfungwa. Mubasa re "The Tale of Love and Darkness" dhipuroma yakanga isiri yakanyanyisa. Uyezve, heroine yako mairi inotambura nehutano hwehutano ... Nenzira, mutungamiriri wekutanga, uyo anosarudzawo kutamba basa guru mufirimu yake, munhu akashinga.
E.G: Muchiitiko changu, kwete zvachose, kwete ushingi uye kwete kunyange basa rinokosha. Uye iyo psychology pano, kutaura chokwadi, haina kunyanya kubva panzvimbo. Chokwadi ndechekuti ndakapfura firimu muIsrael uye nezveIsrael. muchiHebheru. Nezve rudo, kusungirirwa kusinga peri pakati pemwanakomana naamai vake pakatarisana nekuumbwa kwenyika yeIsrael. Iri ifirimu rinotaura nezvekukura kwenyika uye munhu. Uye zvinobva pakuboora nhoroondo yenhoroondo yemukuru, pasina kuwedzeredza, mukuru Amos Oz.
Zvose zvinobva kumhepo yaIsraeri. Uye Israeri inyika yangu. Ndakaberekerwa ikoko, mhuri yangu inobva ikoko, dzimwe nguva tinotaura chiHebheru kumba kwevabereki vangu, uye nhaka yechiJudha mumhuri yedu yakasimba zvikuru ... "Tale of Love and Darkness" ifirimu rangu rakazara, hapana aigona kutamba. basa iri mariri, kunze kwangu. Kwaizongobvisa revo yefirimu kwandiri, revo yomunhu oga yandaiisa mariri. Nekuti kwandiri inzira yekuratidza kuda kwangu nyika uye kutsanangura chitupa changu.
Iwe unoziva, shamwari dzangu dzese dzeAmerica muhudiki hwavo neimwe nzira vakabvunza mubvunzo uyu - ndini ani? ndini chii? Asi kwandiri, hakuna kumbova nemubvunzo wakadaro: Ini ndiri muJudha, muJudha uye muIsraeri. Paunenge uchiti, "Ini ndinobva kuIsrael," vanhu vanowanzotanga hurukuro yeawa gumi nezvezvematongerwo enyika nenzira iyoyo. Asi kwandiri hapana zvematongerwo enyika pano, ini ndinobva kuIsrael, kubva kunyika iyo, hongu, yaive pamberi pemaitiro ebudiriro, asi ini ndinobva kuIsrael. Uye ini ndiri weIsraeri kwete zvishoma pane weAmerica.
Zvinorevei chaizvo kwauri kuva weIsraeri?
E.G: Ndizvo… Pandakatanga kusangana neBuddhism, ndakambovhiringika. Buddhism ndeyekutenda zvaunazvo uye kwauri iko zvino. Uye ini ndakaita sechiJuda chese, icho ... chinova chakabatana zvisinga patsanuke nekushuvira zvausina. Munyika yokumusha iyo vaJudha vakadzingwa. Uye uku kuparadzaniswa chaiko kwe“gore rinouya muJerusarema” kunoshamisa, sokunge kuti Jerusarema harisati riri ravaJudha.
Mutauro pachawo unotitaurira: Israeri yakavakirwa muchitendero chedu sechinhu chatisina. Asi isu tatove naro, nyika yemusha yadzoserwa. Uye shuviro ichiripo ... Uye ini ndinayo - kuora mwoyo. Dzimwe nguva zvinoratidza. Kunyangwe… Iniwo ndine midzi yekuEastern Europe, uye zvakawanda mutsika dzemhuri yedu, uye muhunhu hwangu - kubva ipapo. Zvichida kubva kuRussia, kunobva ambuya vangu.
Somuenzaniso, chii?
E.G: Hongu, iyo melancholy. Mumwe wevakomana vangu akafunga kuti akanga asiri muJudha, asi chiRussia chose. Akatonditi "Moscow". Uye akati: hauone, asi maitiro aunotonhorwa nechando wotarisa panze nepahwindo neshungu… Zvinongori “Hanzvadzi Vatatu” — “KuMoscow! KuMoscow!» Dzimwe nguva akatondikumbira kuti ndimise "Muscovite". Slavic romantic spleen - ndizvo zvinodaidzwa naOz iyi nyika. Asi tinowanzotarisira zvishamiso.
Uye iwe, zvinoita sekunge, hauna chekutarisira - hupenyu hwako hwatotaridzika hunoshamisa.
E.G: Ndizvo chaizvo, ndine rombo rakanaka: Ndatova nezvishamiso zvakawanda. Nekudaro, kana iwe uchifunga kuti zvine hukama nebasa kana mukurumbira, wakarasika. Ndakasangana nemurume anoshamisa - Amos Oz. Chishamiso. Ndinokwanisa kupedza nguva yakawanda ndiri pamba. Isu tinotogadzira zvedu tsika - neChina mota inouya kumba kwedu kuzoraswa, uye ini ndinogara ndiri pamba neChina. Chishamiso. Pakupera kwevhiki tinosangana neshamwari nevana vadzo. Kunenge kupera kwevhiki kwega kwega. Chishamiso. Tisati tauya kuno, ini naAleph takanga tichifamba mupaki, uye kekutanga akaona tsuro. Uye ndakaona maziso ake. Aive mashura chaiwo. Kusiyana netsuro yakasvetuka kubva kuAleph nekumhanya kwesosa rinobhururuka, zvishamiso zvangu…